Brexit


#5939

The stupid ■■■■■ that turned up expecting him to march with them deserve to be baton charged, with extreme prejudice.


#5940

Hammond on Andrew Marr has all but admitted the DUP are being bought off.


#5941

Yes I thought the same. A fig leaf for their humiliation. How quiet Jacob is now. Where is Boris? Sammy must have fallen ill?


#5942

Where’s Corbyn?

Praying that it all goes through so there doesn’t have to be a second referendum I suppose.


#5943

#5944

Sammy got food poison after a visit to the ‘chippy’ his arse is as red as his face with them back door trots.


#5945

A waster and a charlatan. A supporter of a failed ideology and as much responsible and more as the Tories for this mess.

To give May her due her sheer bloody mindedness is staggering. She could well see this over the line this week. And the 16 million or more who wanted to stay are totally unrepresented.

Corbyn’s ultimate failure will be when the Tories walk the next election.

EDIT: And ultimately Brexit will be achieved all to placate a bunch of people who believe that dinosaurs are simply ‘God fuckin’ with our heads’ to quote the late, great Mr. Hicks.


#5946

Corbyn is like Macavity the Mystery Cat. No matter what goes wrong, he’s never there.


#5947

#5948

May had an opportunity to build consensus and deliver a Brexit that wouldn’t mess them up too badly. Corbyn had. Chance to rally the remainers and build. Proper opposition. Both failed miserably.


#5949

:rofl:


#5950

Where are SF in all of this? The British don’t even know there is another viewpoint in the north. I understand and generally agree with absentianism, but I am not so sure that the fundamental constitutional position of the north isn’t a case for making an exception.

As a SF voter most of my life (more on republican grounds then socialist ones though to be honest ), I am saddened and a little angry at their complete lack of relevance in all of this. They have the votes to make an impact - but they refuse to.


#5951

My guess is they are tactically staying quiet in the expection/hope this goes economically wrong and they can hang it around the neck of the DUP in the communities that SF represent. SF’s battle in the north is with nationalists now to try and convince them that unity makes sense.

Post Brexit if the north loses jobs or any infrastructure emerges on the border they will go into overdrive.

For now it would appear the DUP are doing very well in SF’s eyes. If what I’m saying turned out to be true then I think it’s too dangerous a game to play.


#5952

You’ll be rightly in for it when a few particular posters see this.

Never mind the fact that you’re right. The DUP are being bought off in front of their noses and they’re just sitting back and letting it happen. And the DUP will have a great time spinning that to the voters.


#5953

DUP surely had this possible outcome in mind all the way along. They win the maximum benefit for themselves and whatever things they may feel they can get for their electorate. Horrible and neanderthal as they may be, they still play some good politics.


#5954

Yep, you are probably right.

I suppose though the caveat is that the DUP and SF don’t share voters, so it won’t effect the nationalist vote. And Arlene is hated on an all other scale then I have ever seen before by nationalists. Maybe @upthedall could confirm the Omagh area opinion, but I have never seen what I would have considered so many middle class, formerly SDLP voters so exercised by the DUP. But that is because she is so terrible, not because of anything SF are doing.


#5955

Mary Lou’s antics in NY yesterday won’t help. Optics are fucking awful


#5956

Not to her voters, or to me to be honest. It’s more of that in my opinion that’s needed, not less.

We are at a time when the Brits and the DUP are openly trying to break the GFA in as many ways as possible and to British’ise the north as much as they can. The only bulwark we have is SF - this is the party that the nationalist people have overwhelmingly elected to protect them.

If a Brits out banner is offensive in the face of all this, we are in a messed up place. They are the first positive optics I have seen in months


#5957

Bravo sir. Well said.


#5958

Well the in-laws are fairly middle of the road, non-political rural people. SDLP if they had to vote.

The father in law who rarely has a bad word to say about anyone - has zero time for Arlene.

He sees her as sectrarian and just doing damage to farmers because of Brexit.

Farmers tend to practical, and he just can’t make sense of what she’s doing. Says even her rural base will vote against her.